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	<title>Comments on: 8725 votes! (and a historic third term&#8230;)</title>
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	<description>Thoughts of Antonia, Labour activist and feminist in Oxford</description>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
		<link>http://www.antoniabance.org.uk/2005/05/06/8725-votes-and-a-historic-third-term/#comment-14490</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Aug 2006 13:00:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At the end of the day - the best man won. Notice the total silence on Gwent since...</description>
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		<title>By: Antonia</title>
		<link>http://www.antoniabance.org.uk/2005/05/06/8725-votes-and-a-historic-third-term/#comment-10502</link>
		<dc:creator>Antonia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jun 2006 09:05:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Misogyny - hatred of women.  Peter Law - not a woman (obviously, otherwise there would have been far less trouble).  And your point was?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Misogyny - hatred of women.  Peter Law - not a woman (obviously, otherwise there would have been far less trouble).  And your point was?</p>
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		<title>By: david morris</title>
		<link>http://www.antoniabance.org.uk/2005/05/06/8725-votes-and-a-historic-third-term/#comment-10484</link>
		<dc:creator>david morris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jun 2006 05:07:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Antonia, whoever you are, you're comments about Peter law are blatant mysogeny and disgraceful. This does nothing to present you as a rational commentator. DM</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Antonia, whoever you are, you&#8217;re comments about Peter law are blatant mysogeny and disgraceful. This does nothing to present you as a rational commentator. DM</p>
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		<title>By: Ruby</title>
		<link>http://www.antoniabance.org.uk/2005/05/06/8725-votes-and-a-historic-third-term/#comment-3677</link>
		<dc:creator>Ruby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 May 2006 15:39:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"A disgrace" - hardly. Antonia is entitled to her opinion. And please note that they were made more than a year ago, when Mr Law was still alive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;A disgrace&#8221; - hardly. Antonia is entitled to her opinion. And please note that they were made more than a year ago, when Mr Law was still alive.</p>
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		<title>By: C4</title>
		<link>http://www.antoniabance.org.uk/2005/05/06/8725-votes-and-a-historic-third-term/#comment-3378</link>
		<dc:creator>C4</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 May 2006 17:37:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Antonia, your remarks about Peter Law are absolute disgrace.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Antonia, your remarks about Peter Law are absolute disgrace.</p>
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		<title>By: Antonia</title>
		<link>http://www.antoniabance.org.uk/2005/05/06/8725-votes-and-a-historic-third-term/#comment-69</link>
		<dc:creator>Antonia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 May 2005 16:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul, &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;That's the myth they'd like you to believe, that Blaenau Gwent CLP was dictated to by London.  In fact, the decision to go with AWS in a proportion of seats being vacated by sitting MPs was taken by party conference, to which all CLPs get delegates, and confirmed by the NEC, elected by members, MPs and trade unions.  LP democracy isn't perfect, but this one happened through the correct channels.    &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Now, I'm sure you'll agree with me that the practice of cosying up to a sitting MP over a number of years so that you become the favoured successor, as Peter Law did, is wrong, excludes women from getting selected and should be stamped out.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;But beyond my views on AWS, whatever happened to loyalty? How dare he stand against the Labour Party after being a member for so long, over such a relatively trivial issue? Be cross, yes, be furious, yes (though personally I'd be crosser if I had a candidate from No. 10 imposed at three weeks' notice, as had one of the Wolverhampton seats this time and St Helens South last time) but leave the LP and stand against the official candidate after 20-odd years membership and lose Labour their hard-won majority in the Welsh Asembly over it too? Over-reaction, just a little, I think.  &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;PS - maybe I'd have a little more respect if he'd left and run a principled leftwing campaign against Labour on the issues, like Iraq and civil liberties - but he didn't - he just   whipped up feeling on the selection issue.  Disgraceful.</description>
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<p>That&#8217;s the myth they&#8217;d like you to believe, that Blaenau Gwent CLP was dictated to by London.  In fact, the decision to go with AWS in a proportion of seats being vacated by sitting MPs was taken by party conference, to which all CLPs get delegates, and confirmed by the NEC, elected by members, MPs and trade unions.  LP democracy isn&#8217;t perfect, but this one happened through the correct channels.    </p>
<p>Now, I&#8217;m sure you&#8217;ll agree with me that the practice of cosying up to a sitting MP over a number of years so that you become the favoured successor, as Peter Law did, is wrong, excludes women from getting selected and should be stamped out.</p>
<p>But beyond my views on AWS, whatever happened to loyalty? How dare he stand against the Labour Party after being a member for so long, over such a relatively trivial issue? Be cross, yes, be furious, yes (though personally I&#8217;d be crosser if I had a candidate from No. 10 imposed at three weeks&#8217; notice, as had one of the Wolverhampton seats this time and St Helens South last time) but leave the LP and stand against the official candidate after 20-odd years membership and lose Labour their hard-won majority in the Welsh Asembly over it too? Over-reaction, just a little, I think.  </p>
<p>PS - maybe I&#8217;d have a little more respect if he&#8217;d left and run a principled leftwing campaign against Labour on the issues, like Iraq and civil liberties - but he didn&#8217;t - he just   whipped up feeling on the selection issue.  Disgraceful.</p>
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		<title>By: Turbulent Cleric</title>
		<link>http://www.antoniabance.org.uk/2005/05/06/8725-votes-and-a-historic-third-term/#comment-68</link>
		<dc:creator>Turbulent Cleric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 May 2005 15:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well done. However I can't agree with you re Peter Law. Nor evidently do the people of his consituency for they clearly felt that they should pick the right person for their constituency and not be dictated to from London.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well done. However I can&#8217;t agree with you re Peter Law. Nor evidently do the people of his consituency for they clearly felt that they should pick the right person for their constituency and not be dictated to from London.</p>
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		<title>By: Anthony F</title>
		<link>http://www.antoniabance.org.uk/2005/05/06/8725-votes-and-a-historic-third-term/#comment-67</link>
		<dc:creator>Anthony F</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 May 2005 21:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well done on the result. Good luck for 2009.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well done on the result. Good luck for 2009.</p>
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		<title>By: Antonia</title>
		<link>http://www.antoniabance.org.uk/2005/05/06/8725-votes-and-a-historic-third-term/#comment-66</link>
		<dc:creator>Antonia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 May 2005 10:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If that's Helen Aspell, it's lovely to hear from you mate, and drop me a line so we can catch up.  Antonia xx</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If that&#8217;s Helen Aspell, it&#8217;s lovely to hear from you mate, and drop me a line so we can catch up.  Antonia xx</p>
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		<title>By: Helen A</title>
		<link>http://www.antoniabance.org.uk/2005/05/06/8725-votes-and-a-historic-third-term/#comment-65</link>
		<dc:creator>Helen A</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 May 2005 21:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Congrats on your comapaign, i know in the depths of the NUS past we have not always seen eye-to-eye but thought i'd say that, you'll make a fabulous MP. Here's to 2009, Gordon Brown and a Labour safe seat for you. Helen A</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Congrats on your comapaign, i know in the depths of the NUS past we have not always seen eye-to-eye but thought i&#8217;d say that, you&#8217;ll make a fabulous MP. Here&#8217;s to 2009, Gordon Brown and a Labour safe seat for you. Helen A</p>
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