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	<title>Comments on: Feminised streets</title>
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	<description>Thoughts of Antonia, Labour activist and feminist in Oxford</description>
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		<title>By: Winter</title>
		<link>http://www.antoniabance.org.uk/2005/08/22/feminised-streets/#comment-437</link>
		<dc:creator>Winter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Aug 2005 20:07:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hm. Creches in nightclubs sounds very silly. I think the alterations should aim to make the streets and public places generally safer and more "people" friendly at night. What worries me is the way this report plays upon female fear of sexual attack, which I consider very socially controlling. 1 in 4 young woman should not be terrified of getting raped.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hm. Creches in nightclubs sounds very silly. I think the alterations should aim to make the streets and public places generally safer and more &#8220;people&#8221; friendly at night. What worries me is the way this report plays upon female fear of sexual attack, which I consider very socially controlling. 1 in 4 young woman should not be terrified of getting raped.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://www.antoniabance.org.uk/2005/08/22/feminised-streets/#comment-433</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Aug 2005 14:59:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On t'other hand, Radcliffe Square has much more important things going for it than cobbles, which are always being torn up because heavy vehicles use it.  Perhaps if most of it were to be grassed over, leaving pathways for access.

When I was at Wadham they had to knock a hole in the 17th-century MCR to provide disabled access.  It was done as unobtrusively as possible, of course - but living people before history.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On t&#8217;other hand, Radcliffe Square has much more important things going for it than cobbles, which are always being torn up because heavy vehicles use it.  Perhaps if most of it were to be grassed over, leaving pathways for access.</p>
<p>When I was at Wadham they had to knock a hole in the 17th-century MCR to provide disabled access.  It was done as unobtrusively as possible, of course - but living people before history.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
		<link>http://www.antoniabance.org.uk/2005/08/22/feminised-streets/#comment-432</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Aug 2005 16:33:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Radcliffe Square I'd actually leave the pebbles in, although in my time I have fallen off my bicycle onto them having misjudged their bumpiness.

I think one can overdo changes to the built environment: whilst (obviously) they are often important, I think there are two general problems with that approach.

(i) most importantly, the 'light in the gutter' problem: there are many things that will affect urban safety in Radcliffe Square area, some more than others.  We should not fall in to the trap of behaving as if the easiest ways of attempting to improve a situation are the same as the most effective.  If I've dropped my keys in the gutter and it's dark, moving twenty yards along to be under the streetlight will not make it easier to find them since they're not there, and a=although changing a very restricted road surface would improve safety, it may not (a) improve it very much, (b) improve it in a very cost-effective way, or (c) improve it at a low cost in terms of other aspects of its amenity.

(ii) there are also many other reasons for being concerned about urban environments other than safety, although safety is obviously very important.  The pebbles make Radcliffe Square special and beautiful, and that's one of the reasons why people come to visit it.  Personally I tend to the view that lighting is more important that surfaces, and after all, there are proper roads and pavements all the way around and across Radcliffe Square for people who do have concerns (perfectly legitimately) about doing their ankle in, who if they wish can quite easily avoid the pebbles.

Tim.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Radcliffe Square I&#8217;d actually leave the pebbles in, although in my time I have fallen off my bicycle onto them having misjudged their bumpiness.</p>
<p>I think one can overdo changes to the built environment: whilst (obviously) they are often important, I think there are two general problems with that approach.</p>
<p>(i) most importantly, the &#8216;light in the gutter&#8217; problem: there are many things that will affect urban safety in Radcliffe Square area, some more than others.  We should not fall in to the trap of behaving as if the easiest ways of attempting to improve a situation are the same as the most effective.  If I&#8217;ve dropped my keys in the gutter and it&#8217;s dark, moving twenty yards along to be under the streetlight will not make it easier to find them since they&#8217;re not there, and a=although changing a very restricted road surface would improve safety, it may not (a) improve it very much, (b) improve it in a very cost-effective way, or (c) improve it at a low cost in terms of other aspects of its amenity.</p>
<p>(ii) there are also many other reasons for being concerned about urban environments other than safety, although safety is obviously very important.  The pebbles make Radcliffe Square special and beautiful, and that&#8217;s one of the reasons why people come to visit it.  Personally I tend to the view that lighting is more important that surfaces, and after all, there are proper roads and pavements all the way around and across Radcliffe Square for people who do have concerns (perfectly legitimately) about doing their ankle in, who if they wish can quite easily avoid the pebbles.</p>
<p>Tim.</p>
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		<title>By: Jo</title>
		<link>http://www.antoniabance.org.uk/2005/08/22/feminised-streets/#comment-425</link>
		<dc:creator>Jo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Aug 2005 22:46:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;... the loos at Oxford station being a particular hate.&lt;/i&gt;

I admit they're pretty awful, but at least they're free!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8230; the loos at Oxford station being a particular hate.</i></p>
<p>I admit they&#8217;re pretty awful, but at least they&#8217;re free!</p>
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