F4J’s most ridiculous stunt ever
From the Guardian:
Detectives have investigated a plot to kidnap Tony Blair’s son, Leo, after it emerged that extremists linked to the fathers’ rights group Fathers4Justice were allegedly intending to snatch the Blairs’ youngest child as a form of direct action.
Fathers4Justice have disassociated themselves from the supposed plot, but then, why are we surprised that some “former members” might consider such a dangerous and counterproductive ploy? They’ve sent bomb threats to courts, which led to their first investigation by “elite anti-terrorist police group SO13″ and terrorised lawyers and family court staff, in one case dousing a family lawyer’s car in petrol.
Update: It seems Fathers4Justice is no more. Matt O’Connor said last night:
“We will cease all operations and bring the campaign to a close.”
It’s funny how people with lunatic causes fall for plans which are far more likely to lose them any support or sympathy they might have had in the beginning. (You know who I mean.) Where does the brain rot start, I wonder?
What a shame that Fathers4Justice, one of the few organisations standing up for the rights of oppressed men has to close because of the alleged actions of a few idiots.
Once again the plight of men crushed under the heel of the institutional injustice will slip into the shadows.
Feste - men are neither oppressed as men, nor are they the victims of institutional injustice, and it’s no surprise that the membership of Fathers 4 Justice includes idiots.
Antonia,
Surely you understand what he was saying. semantics seem to be your favorite reposte
As far as I am aware, in Scotland at least, a Father has no immediate right to see his son, and it can be very difficult to get access, if a mother is interfering.
On another note, I think it would be difficult to identify any group that didn’t have it’s share of idiots… all gov. parties included
How many more children will be abused, because of this dubious report? Even the paper that reported it, admitted it was not the group itself, but just a few idiots. In fact, they followed up the story, with reports on how the current system fails children and fathers.
Three guys, drunk in a pub, is not a plot. All this story did, was get the REAL danger to children - Ruth Kelly - off the front pages.
Before Antonia, adds more of her usual Labour spin to this, read what ‘normal’ folk were writing:-
Mail
The sun
WARNING - New Labour can seriously harm your children’s health!
I agree that the demise of F4J is a sad thing for all those fathers, grandparents and extended family that have been unjustly denied a healthy relationship with their children through no fault of their own. It is also sad for the would-be fathers of the future too. Without a direct action campaign group their potential plights and flights into parenthood that holds no guarantees of permanence, will remain a lottery.
It is also sad for mothers who are left holding the burden of childcare in a society that programs men to believe fatherhood is a disposable trait. It is a crying shame to children who’s parents may well believe that they are the unilateral controller of their destiny and relationships with the other parent. I is bad that the wrong messages will now continue to be prevalent amongst those who see mums as the primary carers of children and dads as a nice to have, but optional component of family life. This message which men and women hold, causes so much damage and loss in the lives of children. At least with the likes of F4J campaigning and raising the plights of fathers and their children to the top of the media spotlight, the messages were being challenged.
I guess those who don’t want the messages challenged, are happy for such an active group to cease. All I can say to that is, be happy in you short lived contentment, because as sure as eggs is eggs, and water always finds its level, the campaign for equality and fair and equitable justice in family law will continue and evolve. No doubt the knockers will not like the new groups either, not because of their tactics (although that’s always a good excuse) but more for the messages they are challenging and the demands they make.
Ask yourself, would you support the equal rights, responsibilities and freedoms for both men and women in their roles and capacity to parent their children? If you still think mums are best, then, I question why you are even reading a feminist blog, which after all is supposed to be about equality and finding the balance.
I can’t believe you spout that anti-woman anti-child anti-family drivel and then have the cheek to tell me what feminism is supposed to be about…!
Antonia,
You astound me. What was anti-woman, anti-family, and anti-child? Was it the fact that is was one thing and one thing only… It wasn’t anti-man?
Please expand on your comments; I would be delighted to here where you are coming from.
DaveT - F4J are anti-woman, anti-child and anti-family. You’ve obviously not read the extensive posts I’ve written on this subject, and I’m bored repeating the same things over and over to F4J supporters who never learn. You appear not to have any novel arguments, so just accept that you’re wrong, and contribute sensibly, or accept that you’re not going to change my mind and bugger off.
My what a pleasant person you are, your parents must be very proud. Kinds words I am sure. Manners obviously not part of your utopian vision then. You are completely and utterly wrong, and I wouldn’t bother trying to persuade you in your views. After all, that is all they are. The facts speak louder, and the fact that campaigning about equality seems to offend you stinks of double standards. From you narrow minded vision of what is equality and where it is needed, I doubt you could grasp the concept of what constitutes family, or fairness, so I’ll leave you to you opinions, and just finish this post here.
Well thank f*** for that
Partners in crime….LOL
Am sorry Antonia but the actual word feminism goes against the grain of what most people in this country would call family. That one side should have more push than the other does that not go against the grain, should a family life not be a partnership of minds.
Instead you give all of this drivel about the woman being the weaker sex and allways the one receiving abuse from the man during split ups.
Could it not be that there is a 50/50 chance of this happening to both sides when PEOPLE get vindictive during a traumatic time for one or both or these partners.
As for Fathers4Justice Antonia I am pleased to say that you will never see the last of the cause or the group maybe not in its old form. UNTIL we have equal rights for both mother and father within this country and every country. By the way Italy has recently moved to shared parenting within LAW, the dominoes are now starting to topple.