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	<description>Thoughts of Antonia, Labour activist and feminist in Oxford</description>
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		<title>By: Paul Burgin</title>
		<link>http://www.antoniabance.org.uk/2006/05/06/time-out/#comment-4257</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Burgin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 May 2006 15:52:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>People rarely do see inconsistency in their arguments!
Quite a frightening thought that! :/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People rarely do see inconsistency in their arguments!<br />
Quite a frightening thought that! :/</p>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
		<link>http://www.antoniabance.org.uk/2006/05/06/time-out/#comment-4244</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 May 2006 14:32:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am somewhat bemused by the idea that one has to have spent years eating old boots in order to hold an opinion on poverty. Interestingly, this idea is often expressed by people who hold very strong opinions about the war in Iraq, but are neither soldiers nor residents of Iraq. I wonder if they see the inconsistency...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am somewhat bemused by the idea that one has to have spent years eating old boots in order to hold an opinion on poverty. Interestingly, this idea is often expressed by people who hold very strong opinions about the war in Iraq, but are neither soldiers nor residents of Iraq. I wonder if they see the inconsistency&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: jdc</title>
		<link>http://www.antoniabance.org.uk/2006/05/06/time-out/#comment-4236</link>
		<dc:creator>jdc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 May 2006 11:05:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think (d) is often true, especially if you insert the word 'undergraduate' in there somewhere. It's very clearly nonsense in Antonia's case though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think (d) is often true, especially if you insert the word &#8216;undergraduate&#8217; in there somewhere. It&#8217;s very clearly nonsense in Antonia&#8217;s case though.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Burgin</title>
		<link>http://www.antoniabance.org.uk/2006/05/06/time-out/#comment-4191</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Burgin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 May 2006 09:06:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>True, but what amused me about Fay's post is the assumption that:

a)Elected representatives of any sort should not go on holiday

b)That they equally should not talk or write about it if they do!

c) That it is wrong for same representatives to do casework and/or watch episodes of "Buffy" and "The West Wing" in the evenings. In fact any elected representative seems not to be allowed to do anything after 7PM ;)

d)That middle class leftists have never seen poverty (actually that is an inverted snobbish attitude amongst smug Tories and some Lib Dems that needs to be taken seriously). 

The reason I think the likes of Jo and Antonia stay calm in the face of such abuse, Ruby, is that they realise that these trolls are just not worth the effort. Just a pack of frightened, emotive, non-thinking trolls, who have no idea whatsoever what it is like to be gay or have been close to anyone who is!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>True, but what amused me about Fay&#8217;s post is the assumption that:</p>
<p>a)Elected representatives of any sort should not go on holiday</p>
<p>b)That they equally should not talk or write about it if they do!</p>
<p>c) That it is wrong for same representatives to do casework and/or watch episodes of &#8220;Buffy&#8221; and &#8220;The West Wing&#8221; in the evenings. In fact any elected representative seems not to be allowed to do anything after 7PM <img src='http://www.antoniabance.org.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>d)That middle class leftists have never seen poverty (actually that is an inverted snobbish attitude amongst smug Tories and some Lib Dems that needs to be taken seriously). </p>
<p>The reason I think the likes of Jo and Antonia stay calm in the face of such abuse, Ruby, is that they realise that these trolls are just not worth the effort. Just a pack of frightened, emotive, non-thinking trolls, who have no idea whatsoever what it is like to be gay or have been close to anyone who is!</p>
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		<title>By: Ruby</title>
		<link>http://www.antoniabance.org.uk/2006/05/06/time-out/#comment-4096</link>
		<dc:creator>Ruby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 May 2006 21:39:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Antonia, I admire the way you manage to stay so calm in the face of idiots like Fay. Her post is not worth the pixels it's written on. I'm not sure if I should be encouraging the troll by saying this, but the British electorate has proved that homosexuality is no bar to office in recent years, so I hardly think they will be "booting" Antonia out because she is gay.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Antonia, I admire the way you manage to stay so calm in the face of idiots like Fay. Her post is not worth the pixels it&#8217;s written on. I&#8217;m not sure if I should be encouraging the troll by saying this, but the British electorate has proved that homosexuality is no bar to office in recent years, so I hardly think they will be &#8220;booting&#8221; Antonia out because she is gay.</p>
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		<title>By: Antonia</title>
		<link>http://www.antoniabance.org.uk/2006/05/06/time-out/#comment-4094</link>
		<dc:creator>Antonia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 May 2006 20:44:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fay - I normally take down such rabidly homophobic posts but I think I'll leave this one up so everyone can see just what a lovely person you are.  However, as this is my blog I don't think I'll be giving you the opportunity to post in future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fay - I normally take down such rabidly homophobic posts but I think I&#8217;ll leave this one up so everyone can see just what a lovely person you are.  However, as this is my blog I don&#8217;t think I&#8217;ll be giving you the opportunity to post in future.</p>
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		<title>By: Fay</title>
		<link>http://www.antoniabance.org.uk/2006/05/06/time-out/#comment-4092</link>
		<dc:creator>Fay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 May 2006 20:15:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>im sure the poor people in your ward will be impressed by how much time you and your muff diving chum spend posting about your fucking holiday, like nobody has ever been on a plane before.
As soon as they find out what you and your lesbian lover get up to in the evenings they will soon boot you out.
Typical middle class leftists who wouldnt know poor if it bit them on the arse, and you both have very large arses I can see from the photos</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>im sure the poor people in your ward will be impressed by how much time you and your muff diving chum spend posting about your fucking holiday, like nobody has ever been on a plane before.<br />
As soon as they find out what you and your lesbian lover get up to in the evenings they will soon boot you out.<br />
Typical middle class leftists who wouldnt know poor if it bit them on the arse, and you both have very large arses I can see from the photos</p>
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		<title>By: Ruby</title>
		<link>http://www.antoniabance.org.uk/2006/05/06/time-out/#comment-4011</link>
		<dc:creator>Ruby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 May 2006 14:55:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good luck to you Antonia! I don't know you but I am surprised at the venom of the comments from Ros and Fay. Hey, you are clearly a committed and passionate rising star and you will just have to get used to ignoring the backbiters - they are probably just jealous! Good luck as a councillor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good luck to you Antonia! I don&#8217;t know you but I am surprised at the venom of the comments from Ros and Fay. Hey, you are clearly a committed and passionate rising star and you will just have to get used to ignoring the backbiters - they are probably just jealous! Good luck as a councillor.</p>
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		<title>By: Antonia</title>
		<link>http://www.antoniabance.org.uk/2006/05/06/time-out/#comment-3955</link>
		<dc:creator>Antonia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 May 2006 16:13:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tom - thanks.  
Ros - if I had your support I'd be worried.  
Fay - yep, planning applications and blocked drains, council house repairs and community support officers - it's what I signed on for.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom - thanks.<br />
Ros - if I had your support I&#8217;d be worried.<br />
Fay - yep, planning applications and blocked drains, council house repairs and community support officers - it&#8217;s what I signed on for.</p>
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		<title>By: Fay</title>
		<link>http://www.antoniabance.org.uk/2006/05/06/time-out/#comment-3949</link>
		<dc:creator>Fay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 May 2006 07:31:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"you’ll make a great councillor"

umm thats up to her electorate to say dont you think?

Perhaps Ms Ego will or she wont but thats up to the voters.
She will have to spend less time telling the elected PM when he should step down and more time dealing with planning applications and blocked drains.

Not quite the West Wing is it....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;you’ll make a great councillor&#8221;</p>
<p>umm thats up to her electorate to say dont you think?</p>
<p>Perhaps Ms Ego will or she wont but thats up to the voters.<br />
She will have to spend less time telling the elected PM when he should step down and more time dealing with planning applications and blocked drains.</p>
<p>Not quite the West Wing is it&#8230;.</p>
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