Comments on: Delegates http://www.antoniabance.org.uk/2006/09/29/delegates/ Thoughts of Antonia, Labour activist and feminist in Oxford Tue, 07 Oct 2008 03:39:12 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: C4 http://www.antoniabance.org.uk/2006/09/29/delegates/#comment-23367 C4 Sat, 30 Sep 2006 10:06:37 +0000 http://www.antoniabance.org.uk/2006/09/29/delegates/#comment-23367 <i>a personal tale about a relative with a dreadful disease who would had died under the Tories but lived thanks to a Labour government’s new (PFI) hospital in their area is also a good stalwart in a health debate</i> My grandmother died in a NHS hospitial under New Labour because the medical staff botched up their work. a personal tale about a relative with a dreadful disease who would had died under the Tories but lived thanks to a Labour government’s new (PFI) hospital in their area is also a good stalwart in a health debate

My grandmother died in a NHS hospitial under New Labour because the medical staff botched up their work.

]]> By: adrian http://www.antoniabance.org.uk/2006/09/29/delegates/#comment-23285 adrian Fri, 29 Sep 2006 22:21:23 +0000 http://www.antoniabance.org.uk/2006/09/29/delegates/#comment-23285 The NEC makes recommendations to conference about just about everything that goes before it. Therefore any leaflets would be *after* the decision is made. I have no idea about any of these leaflets but the nature of NEC officers is that they are delegated powers by the NEC to do their job - so they don't have to seek the NEC's permission for every action they take in pursuit of the NEC's decisions. For what it is worth, and as a former senior member of staff of the party, I think a lot of the things that are done are cackhanded and often misfire (as I said I don't know about anything here - I stopped working for the party in 2005) but that doesn't mean they are necessarily against either the spirit or letter of any rules. The NEC makes recommendations to conference about just about everything that goes before it. Therefore any leaflets would be *after* the decision is made.

I have no idea about any of these leaflets but the nature of NEC officers is that they are delegated powers by the NEC to do their job - so they don’t have to seek the NEC’s permission for every action they take in pursuit of the NEC’s decisions.

For what it is worth, and as a former senior member of staff of the party, I think a lot of the things that are done are cackhanded and often misfire (as I said I don’t know about anything here - I stopped working for the party in 2005) but that doesn’t mean they are necessarily against either the spirit or letter of any rules.

]]> By: Antonia http://www.antoniabance.org.uk/2006/09/29/delegates/#comment-23281 Antonia Fri, 29 Sep 2006 21:34:13 +0000 http://www.antoniabance.org.uk/2006/09/29/delegates/#comment-23281 Adrian - once the decision is made, yes. Not before. And I think our staff are an enormously dedicated bunch, by the way. Some of them will even let me buy them a drink occasionally... Adrian - once the decision is made, yes. Not before. And I think our staff are an enormously dedicated bunch, by the way. Some of them will even let me buy them a drink occasionally…

]]> By: Jon Rogers http://www.antoniabance.org.uk/2006/09/29/delegates/#comment-23271 Jon Rogers Fri, 29 Sep 2006 20:12:18 +0000 http://www.antoniabance.org.uk/2006/09/29/delegates/#comment-23271 There is something a bit wrong with them leaning on delegates and trying to influence their votes though surely? There is something a bit wrong with them leaning on delegates and trying to influence their votes though surely?

]]> By: politicalcorrespondent http://www.antoniabance.org.uk/2006/09/29/delegates/#comment-23269 politicalcorrespondent Fri, 29 Sep 2006 19:37:25 +0000 http://www.antoniabance.org.uk/2006/09/29/delegates/#comment-23269 We found the delegate from Tamworth particularly hilarious: http://thedaily.wordpress.com/2006/09/28/labour-conference-a-healthy-debate/ It does bring back memories of the happy days that were NUS Conference. Adrian - are you seriously saying that the NEC authorised these leaflets? Or are party staff now allowed to act on the basis of "who will rid me of this turbulent priest"? We found the delegate from Tamworth particularly hilarious:

http://thedaily.wordpress.com/2006/09/28/labour-conference-a-healthy-debate/

It does bring back memories of the happy days that were NUS Conference.

Adrian - are you seriously saying that the NEC authorised these leaflets? Or are party staff now allowed to act on the basis of “who will rid me of this turbulent priest”?

]]> By: A Former Party Organiser http://www.antoniabance.org.uk/2006/09/29/delegates/#comment-23267 A Former Party Organiser Fri, 29 Sep 2006 18:40:23 +0000 http://www.antoniabance.org.uk/2006/09/29/delegates/#comment-23267 As a former member of Party staff myself, I do actually agree with Adrian, but when the NEC is yet to decide, this is a pretty crap argument: even more so when the staff of the Party encourage people to nominate or vote a particular way in NPF or NEC elections, which also happens. As a former member of Party staff myself, I do actually agree with Adrian, but when the NEC is yet to decide, this is a pretty crap argument: even more so when the staff of the Party encourage people to nominate or vote a particular way in NPF or NEC elections, which also happens.

]]> By: adrian http://www.antoniabance.org.uk/2006/09/29/delegates/#comment-23262 adrian Fri, 29 Sep 2006 18:16:30 +0000 http://www.antoniabance.org.uk/2006/09/29/delegates/#comment-23262 Staff are officers of the NEC. There is nothing wrong with them executing the decisions of the NEC. Staff are officers of the NEC. There is nothing wrong with them executing the decisions of the NEC.

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