Comments on: Cruddas on GMTV Sunday http://www.antoniabance.org.uk/2006/12/01/cruddas-on-gmtv-sunday/ Thoughts of Antonia, Labour activist and feminist in Oxford Thu, 20 Nov 2008 23:42:53 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Daniel http://www.antoniabance.org.uk/2006/12/01/cruddas-on-gmtv-sunday/#comment-40508 Daniel Sun, 10 Dec 2006 16:08:20 +0000 http://www.antoniabance.org.uk/2006/12/01/cruddas-on-gmtv-sunday/#comment-40508 In 1992, people were allowed to nominate two candidates for deputy leader (see Andy McSmith's biography of John Smith), in a kind of preferential system; this enabled there to be a contest. What's the likelihood of that happening this time? In 1992, people were allowed to nominate two candidates for deputy leader (see Andy McSmith’s biography of John Smith), in a kind of preferential system; this enabled there to be a contest. What’s the likelihood of that happening this time?

]]> By: Jo http://www.antoniabance.org.uk/2006/12/01/cruddas-on-gmtv-sunday/#comment-40483 Jo Sun, 10 Dec 2006 13:04:58 +0000 http://www.antoniabance.org.uk/2006/12/01/cruddas-on-gmtv-sunday/#comment-40483 No, I meant that there's no way McDonnell will get the 44 names to even get on the ballot paper. People need to remember that that's the stage we're at at the moment. We (the wider membership) won't be voting for anyone if 44 MPs haven't first nominated them. Mechaer seriously threatens McDonnell's nomination figures. No, I meant that there’s no way McDonnell will get the 44 names to even get on the ballot paper. People need to remember that that’s the stage we’re at at the moment. We (the wider membership) won’t be voting for anyone if 44 MPs haven’t first nominated them. Mechaer seriously threatens McDonnell’s nomination figures.

]]> By: Daniel http://www.antoniabance.org.uk/2006/12/01/cruddas-on-gmtv-sunday/#comment-40471 Daniel Sun, 10 Dec 2006 10:13:16 +0000 http://www.antoniabance.org.uk/2006/12/01/cruddas-on-gmtv-sunday/#comment-40471 I would prefer Meacher to McDonnell but would vote for either. I would prefer Meacher to McDonnell but would vote for either.

]]> By: Chris Baldwin http://www.antoniabance.org.uk/2006/12/01/cruddas-on-gmtv-sunday/#comment-40231 Chris Baldwin Sat, 09 Dec 2006 16:13:11 +0000 http://www.antoniabance.org.uk/2006/12/01/cruddas-on-gmtv-sunday/#comment-40231 I don't know, do you think many people will actually vote for Meacher? He's alienated pretty much all sections of the party over the years. I don’t know, do you think many people will actually vote for Meacher? He’s alienated pretty much all sections of the party over the years.

]]> By: Jo http://www.antoniabance.org.uk/2006/12/01/cruddas-on-gmtv-sunday/#comment-40213 Jo Sat, 09 Dec 2006 13:37:05 +0000 http://www.antoniabance.org.uk/2006/12/01/cruddas-on-gmtv-sunday/#comment-40213 If Meacher stands it's all over for McDonnell. If Meacher stands it’s all over for McDonnell.

]]> By: susan press http://www.antoniabance.org.uk/2006/12/01/cruddas-on-gmtv-sunday/#comment-39291 susan press Tue, 05 Dec 2006 19:23:39 +0000 http://www.antoniabance.org.uk/2006/12/01/cruddas-on-gmtv-sunday/#comment-39291 There is no point backing an anti-war candidate for deputy if you don't back one for Leader - the post, as it stands,is pretty meaningless . You're all getting v carried away with this and missing the point - I think Cruddas is OK and will probably vote for him but it's no bloody use if we have a pro-Trident. New labour Leader,PM and Cabinet. If you're voting for Cruddas, you have to vote for John McDonnell - it's illogical not to. The centre-left and left will just have to work together for a change..... At my current head count, McDonnell's got about 35 nominations in the bag - he needs 9 more .Lobby your MP now......get your friends to re-join Labour and vote for the 2 Johns! There is no point backing an anti-war candidate for deputy if you don’t back one for Leader - the post, as it stands,is pretty meaningless . You’re all getting v carried away with this and missing the point - I think Cruddas is OK and will probably vote for him but it’s no bloody use if we have a pro-Trident. New labour Leader,PM and Cabinet. If you’re voting for Cruddas, you have to vote for John McDonnell - it’s illogical not to. The centre-left and left will just have to work together for a change….. At my current head count, McDonnell’s got about 35 nominations in the bag - he needs 9 more .Lobby your MP now……get your friends to re-join Labour and vote for the 2 Johns!

]]> By: Kevin http://www.antoniabance.org.uk/2006/12/01/cruddas-on-gmtv-sunday/#comment-39011 Kevin Mon, 04 Dec 2006 16:36:43 +0000 http://www.antoniabance.org.uk/2006/12/01/cruddas-on-gmtv-sunday/#comment-39011 Antonia, Good to see you backing Cruddas. He's really galvanising party members in East London and Essex with his serious anti-BNP work and demands for decent social housing. Without him creating a real debate about the future of the party, it would just be a bunch of Cabinet Ministers standing against each other. Antonia,
Good to see you backing Cruddas. He’s really galvanising party members in East London and Essex with his serious anti-BNP work and demands for decent social housing. Without him creating a real debate about the future of the party, it would just be a bunch of Cabinet Ministers standing against each other.

]]> By: HenryG http://www.antoniabance.org.uk/2006/12/01/cruddas-on-gmtv-sunday/#comment-38976 HenryG Mon, 04 Dec 2006 12:37:20 +0000 http://www.antoniabance.org.uk/2006/12/01/cruddas-on-gmtv-sunday/#comment-38976 13. I think Jon's support will actually span a fair bit of the political spectrum - perhaps more than any other candidate. From the old right through to Brownites, Compass MPs and Campaign Groupers. The key messages I'm getting are that Jon wants to broaden the discussions at the top of the party to reflect the interests and feelings of the members and be more deliberative on the process of forming policy and setting our new direction post-Blair. All of this will appeal to a lot of mainstream backbench MPs. Of course the Blairites and existing 'payroll vote' will back either Johnson or Benn, but there are a lot of lower-profile MP's whose vote counts as much as others too. I was with one MP on Friday who commented that he's never felt like he 'counted' since he was not in any faction and was not interested in being a minister. He said he was very likely to back Jon. Will he get onto the ballot - definately. He's not going to get the most nominations from MPs (I think Johnson will) but that after all, it's only one third of the college. 13. I think Jon’s support will actually span a fair bit of the political spectrum - perhaps more than any other candidate. From the old right through to Brownites, Compass MPs and Campaign Groupers. The key messages I’m getting are that Jon wants to broaden the discussions at the top of the party to reflect the interests and feelings of the members and be more deliberative on the process of forming policy and setting our new direction post-Blair.

All of this will appeal to a lot of mainstream backbench MPs. Of course the Blairites and existing ‘payroll vote’ will back either Johnson or Benn, but there are a lot of lower-profile MP’s whose vote counts as much as others too. I was with one MP on Friday who commented that he’s never felt like he ‘counted’ since he was not in any faction and was not interested in being a minister. He said he was very likely to back Jon.

Will he get onto the ballot - definately. He’s not going to get the most nominations from MPs (I think Johnson will) but that after all, it’s only one third of the college.

]]> By: Adele http://www.antoniabance.org.uk/2006/12/01/cruddas-on-gmtv-sunday/#comment-38841 Adele Mon, 04 Dec 2006 01:07:57 +0000 http://www.antoniabance.org.uk/2006/12/01/cruddas-on-gmtv-sunday/#comment-38841 You could say the same for McDonnell who is unlikely to get on the ballot paper. I just don't see where his support will come from. You could say the same for McDonnell who is unlikely to get on the ballot paper. I just don’t see where his support will come from.

]]> By: Jo http://www.antoniabance.org.uk/2006/12/01/cruddas-on-gmtv-sunday/#comment-38821 Jo Sun, 03 Dec 2006 22:28:27 +0000 http://www.antoniabance.org.uk/2006/12/01/cruddas-on-gmtv-sunday/#comment-38821 Cruddas is DEFINITELY going to be on the ballot paper. His team would not be making the effort it is if he wasn't. Think about it. Cruddas is DEFINITELY going to be on the ballot paper. His team would not be making the effort it is if he wasn’t. Think about it.

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