Comments on: Very rare post on defence http://www.antoniabance.org.uk/2007/03/14/very-rare-post-on-defence/ Thoughts of Antonia, Labour activist and feminist in Oxford Tue, 07 Oct 2008 14:21:04 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: wozza http://www.antoniabance.org.uk/2007/03/14/very-rare-post-on-defence/#comment-94998 wozza Tue, 10 Apr 2007 02:22:02 +0000 http://www.antoniabance.org.uk/2007/03/14/very-rare-post-on-defence/#comment-94998 no Tim, just most of the labour pay-roll vote - and the ones angling for jobs under Gordon, and the ones too scared to make any sort of stand against BAE and the whips despite grave reservations about the Necessity (and there were many) of the boondoggle. no Tim, just most of the labour pay-roll vote - and the ones angling for jobs under Gordon, and the ones too scared to make any sort of stand against BAE and the whips despite grave reservations about the Necessity (and there were many) of the boondoggle.

]]> By: Tim Roll-Pickering http://www.antoniabance.org.uk/2007/03/14/very-rare-post-on-defence/#comment-83316 Tim Roll-Pickering Sun, 25 Mar 2007 19:31:10 +0000 http://www.antoniabance.org.uk/2007/03/14/very-rare-post-on-defence/#comment-83316 Were all the MPs who voted for renewal unprincipled? Were all the MPs who voted for renewal unprincipled?

]]> By: Cllr Gavin Ayling http://www.antoniabance.org.uk/2007/03/14/very-rare-post-on-defence/#comment-81507 Cllr Gavin Ayling Fri, 23 Mar 2007 13:03:37 +0000 http://www.antoniabance.org.uk/2007/03/14/very-rare-post-on-defence/#comment-81507 OT: What, no defence of Gordon Brown's great raid on the poor? OT: What, no defence of Gordon Brown’s great raid on the poor?

]]> By: Miles http://www.antoniabance.org.uk/2007/03/14/very-rare-post-on-defence/#comment-81009 Miles Thu, 22 Mar 2007 23:55:43 +0000 http://www.antoniabance.org.uk/2007/03/14/very-rare-post-on-defence/#comment-81009 Hi I too was delighted that my MP, Graham Stringer, voted against Trident. Shame he supported privatising the probation service - but we can't have everything. Hi
I too was delighted that my MP, Graham Stringer, voted against Trident.
Shame he supported privatising the probation service - but we can’t have everything.

]]> By: Benjamin http://www.antoniabance.org.uk/2007/03/14/very-rare-post-on-defence/#comment-72662 Benjamin Thu, 15 Mar 2007 07:56:03 +0000 http://www.antoniabance.org.uk/2007/03/14/very-rare-post-on-defence/#comment-72662 There was a lack of a clear and formal consultation period before the decision was made. This was actually what Tony Blair and his ministers promised but failed to deliver on. So this is basically another Chevaline: these decisions were already taken some time ago by the British secret state. Now its to be railroaded through parliament. As long as the policy is perceived to be ‘right’ to some folk, including some some in the Labour Party, they are not bothered about deception, secrecy and lack of proper consultation and accountability. Nor even about the huge bill to the taxpayer, apparently. Wretched stuff - and fully supported by the Tories of course. Indeed it is at moments like these that one wonders why the Labour Party exists, if it simply pushes through obviously solid Tory policies like this. The mild and reasonable Lib Dem proposal, to wait a bit with a view to reducing the number of warheads further (perfectly sensible and feasible, although by no means radical) looks decidedly left wing compared to Labour and the Conservatives trying to outbid each other on renewal. There is absolutely no pressing reason to take this decision now - unless the aim is to railroad it (hence one manufactures time pressure, blackmail etc - the usual Blairite tactics.) There was a lack of a clear and formal consultation period before the decision was made. This was actually what Tony Blair and his ministers promised but failed to deliver on.

So this is basically another Chevaline: these decisions were already taken some time ago by the British secret state. Now its to be railroaded through parliament. As long as the policy is perceived to be ‘right’ to some folk, including some some in the Labour Party, they are not bothered about deception, secrecy and lack of proper consultation and accountability. Nor even about the huge bill to the taxpayer, apparently.

Wretched stuff - and fully supported by the Tories of course.

Indeed it is at moments like these that one wonders why the Labour Party exists, if it simply pushes through obviously solid Tory policies like this.

The mild and reasonable Lib Dem proposal, to wait a bit with a view to reducing the number of warheads further (perfectly sensible and feasible, although by no means radical) looks decidedly left wing compared to Labour and the Conservatives trying to outbid each other on renewal.

There is absolutely no pressing reason to take this decision now - unless the aim is to railroad it (hence one manufactures time pressure, blackmail etc - the usual Blairite tactics.)

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