Comments on: The Tories on social justice (try not to laugh) http://www.antoniabance.org.uk/2007/07/10/the-tories-on-social-justice-try-not-to-laugh/ Thoughts of Antonia, Labour activist and feminist in Oxford Wed, 08 Oct 2008 03:17:01 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Jock http://www.antoniabance.org.uk/2007/07/10/the-tories-on-social-justice-try-not-to-laugh/#comment-169544 Jock Wed, 25 Jul 2007 13:46:33 +0000 http://www.antoniabance.org.uk/2007/07/10/the-tories-on-social-justice-try-not-to-laugh/#comment-169544 Sorry Robin, how does civil partnership, for example, a mechanism by which two people can commit and dedicate their lives to each other, undermine the values of stability and mutual dependence that you claim to hold? How does teachng kids that something as fundamental as how and who they fall in love with is inherently wrong increase respect for others? Sorry Robin, how does civil partnership, for example, a mechanism by which two people can commit and dedicate their lives to each other, undermine the values of stability and mutual dependence that you claim to hold? How does teachng kids that something as fundamental as how and who they fall in love with is inherently wrong increase respect for others?

]]> By: Robin Williams http://www.antoniabance.org.uk/2007/07/10/the-tories-on-social-justice-try-not-to-laugh/#comment-167170 Robin Williams Sun, 22 Jul 2007 21:51:33 +0000 http://www.antoniabance.org.uk/2007/07/10/the-tories-on-social-justice-try-not-to-laugh/#comment-167170 I was conceived after the union of a man and a woman. However, I was brought up by my mother only - my father having legged-it after my birth. In spite of this my mother instilled the values of marriage, no sex before marriage, respect for women, childbirth within wedlock, marital fidelity. My brother and I were taught various religions and chose to be Christians, holding Christian values to be most precious, including the politically incorrect stance against homosexuality. Unfortunately, these values have been eroded by so-called liberal-minded feminists such as yourself. Consequently the moral decay in our society seems irreversible, with our young having no values, no respect, no manners, no basic consideration and - above all - no morals. I applaud Cameron's aim to restore the sanctity of marriage, even though I am a socialist. Unfortunately, he will never be Prime Minister because he is more left wing than anyone in New Labour, who abandoned their principles by out-torying the Tories - in order to achieve power. Greed, Corruption and cronyism are the principles of New Labour, and I pray that Gordon Brown will return us all to traditional moral values. I was conceived after the union of a man and a woman. However, I was brought up by my mother only - my father having legged-it after my birth. In spite of this my mother instilled the values of marriage, no sex before marriage, respect for women, childbirth within wedlock, marital fidelity. My brother and I were taught various religions and chose to be Christians, holding Christian values to be most precious, including the politically incorrect stance against homosexuality. Unfortunately, these values have been eroded by so-called liberal-minded feminists such as yourself. Consequently the moral decay in our society seems irreversible, with our young having no values, no respect, no manners, no basic consideration and - above all - no morals. I applaud Cameron’s aim to restore the sanctity of marriage, even though I am a socialist. Unfortunately, he will never be Prime Minister because he is more left wing than anyone in New Labour, who abandoned their principles by out-torying the Tories - in order to achieve power. Greed, Corruption and cronyism are the principles of New Labour, and I pray that Gordon Brown will return us all to traditional moral values.

]]> By: Bel http://www.antoniabance.org.uk/2007/07/10/the-tories-on-social-justice-try-not-to-laugh/#comment-155303 Bel Thu, 12 Jul 2007 13:43:09 +0000 http://www.antoniabance.org.uk/2007/07/10/the-tories-on-social-justice-try-not-to-laugh/#comment-155303 Interesting viewpoint, although I had to duck and dive to avoid the cheap shots. Sometimes they take away from the very serious points you make. Just one thing, though: You say 'what will the Tories cut ...'. Implicit in that is the belief that all current public spending is good spending. Can you really not think of an area where Government spending at the moment is a little (shall we say) ill-advised? (I hesitate to use the word 'waste' as I know that that is like a red rag to a bull on a left of centre blog :) ). The point I am making is that perhaps it is possible that whatever it is the Tories will 'cut' could be something that needs cutting, anyway? Surely there must be some areas of public spending that are ripe for cutting? Just a thought. Thank you for the article. It's given me a few things to think about. Interesting viewpoint, although I had to duck and dive to avoid the cheap shots. Sometimes they take away from the very serious points you make.

Just one thing, though: You say ‘what will the Tories cut …’. Implicit in that is the belief that all current public spending is good spending. Can you really not think of an area where Government spending at the moment is a little (shall we say) ill-advised? (I hesitate to use the word ‘waste’ as I know that that is like a red rag to a bull on a left of centre blog :) ).

The point I am making is that perhaps it is possible that whatever it is the Tories will ‘cut’ could be something that needs cutting, anyway? Surely there must be some areas of public spending that are ripe for cutting? Just a thought.

Thank you for the article. It’s given me a few things to think about.

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